1140: Overheard: How to Build a Steady Referral Pipeline with Darci Hether, Rebecca Robinson, and Lacey Michalek

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Today With Darci Hether, Rebecca Robinson, and Lacey Michalek

Today on A Well-Designed Business, three seasoned designers share how they transformed their referral marketing by working with expert Stacey Brown Randall. Rebecca Robinson went from 18 to 40 referrals per year, Lacey Michalek turned a mahjong game into multiple projects, and Darci Hether developed systems for building warm relationships with industry professionals.

You’ll learn the exact referral language that creates psychological responses in past clients, why face-to-face networking beats social media for generating real momentum, and how to turn cold prospects into warm referral sources through strategic events.

These aren’t theories, they’re proven tactics from experienced designers who’ve seen dramatic results. If you’ve been hoping referrals will just happen, this episode gives you the actionable roadmap to build relationships that consistently convert into new business.

More About Darci Hether, Rebecca Robinson, and Lacey Michalek

Lacey Michalek:

At Lacey Michalek Interiors, the magic isn’t just in a beautiful light fixture or the perfect sofa—it’s in how the space makes you feel. Each home is designed to leave you inspired, connected, and refreshed.

Lacey designs homes that feel like art, but are made for family living. Her work is always personality-driven, never cookie-cutter—each space a reflection of the people who live there. Coming from a family of entrepreneurs and holding a degree in psychology from LSU, She brings a profound understanding of relationships and business strategy to each project and family she supports. As a mother, she deeply understands how to create spaces that intimately narrate the story of a family. 

With nearly a decade of experience, her portfolio includes everything from historic renovations in The Heights to modern new builds in West University, sleek downtown penthouses, and laid-back lake homes in Austin. No matter the project, Lacey’s goal is always the same: to create beautiful, livable homes that tell a family’s story.

Darci Hether:

At Darci Hether New York, our work begins with a simple belief: your home should feel like the most elevated version of your life—effortless, intentional, and deeply personal.

As the founder and principal interior designer, I bring over two decades of experience in luxury interior design, crafting residences that reflect not only how our clients live, but how they want to feel. Informed by global travel, cultural nuance, and a lifelong appreciation for detail, I specialize in creating homes that feel complete—spaces that quietly hold you, restore you, and express you.

Our clients are discerning professionals with full lives and refined taste. Whether we’re designing a New York City apartment, a Hamptons retreat, or a family home in Westchester or Fairfield County, our full-service interior design studio provides a seamless experience from concept to completion. Every detail is considered. Every decision, handled.

We’re known for calm communication, exceptional organization, and a meticulous eye. From custom upholstery to architectural detailing, we collaborate with the most skilled craftspeople to deliver results that are both polished and personal.

If you’re ready for an interior design experience that mirrors your lifestyle—with nothing overlooked and nothing left to chance—I invite you to explore our portfolio and connect with us to start the conversation.

Rebecca Robinson:

I’m Rebecca Robinson, founder and principal designer of Monarch Lane Interiors. For me, design is about more than creating beautiful rooms — it’s about guiding a transformation. Just like a butterfly, a home has the power to evolve into something extraordinary, reflecting both where you’ve been and where you’re going.

With a Bachelor’s Degree in Interior Design from O’More College, nearly 2 decades of unmatched expertise, and recognition as a Certified Kitchen and Bath Designer (CKBD), I bring both artistry and precision to every project. My meticulous attention to detail is what allows each design to feel intentional, balanced, and beautifully resolved. Luxury, to me, is found in the thoughtful details that quietly elevate daily living.

My work has been featured in Architectural Digest, but what clients value most is the experience we share: a seamless process, open communication, and a partnership built on trust. I listen deeply, anticipate needs, and lead every project with clarity so you can feel cared for from vision to reveal.

At Monarch Lane, I believe your home should not only be elevated — it should also feel like you: soulful, functional, and welcoming. That’s the kind of luxury that lasts.

Ah Ha Moments with Darci Hether, Rebecca Robinson, and Lacey Michalek

“I’m happier as a business owner now than I have been before because I’m starting to be really good friends with my clients… when you’re connecting with them at a different level and you’re learning and building on that relationship, I feel like it feels more natural and it feels easier.” – Rebecca Robinson

“There is more momentum behind putting yourself out there in the real world than using Instagram.” – Lacey Michalek

Connect with Darci Hether, Rebecca Robinson, and Lacey Michalek

Lacey Michalek:
Website
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Darci Hether

Website
Instagram

Rebecca Robinson

Website
Instagram

What’s new with LuAnn Nigara

The Power Talk Friday Tour

Watch the Docuseries!

https://www.luannnigara.com/cob

Get The Goodies!

For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free here.

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Purchase LuAnn’s Books Here:

Book 1: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Audiobook: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Book 2: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts

Book 3: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2

Connect with LuAnn Nigara

LuAnn’s Website

LuAnn’s Blog

Power Talk Friday

Like Us: Facebook | Tweet Us: Twitter | Follow Us: Instagram | Listen Here: Podcast

Other Resource Mentioned:

This podcast supports the Savvy Giving Design Coalition. Learn more about it here!

AWDB #717 Susan Wintersteen: Interior design firm standards in a nonprofit passion project

AWDB #164: Susan Wintersteen- Savvy Giving by Design

Stacey Brown Randall’s Newest Book: “The Referable Client Experience”

Other Shows Mentioned:

AWDB: #69: Power Talk Friday: Stacey Brown Randall – Take Control Of Your Business – Employee Management

AWDB: #93: Power Talk Friday- Stacey Brown Randall- How To Create an Awesome Client Experience!

AWDB: #558: Rebecca Robinson: Provide Value & Create Relationships with Contractors

AWDB: #885: Power Talk Friday: Stacey Brown Randall: Generate Business Referrals Without Asking

AWDB #220: Darci Hether: Literally The Things I Learned From A Well-Designed Business

1139: Rebecca Ward: Money, Mindset, Pricing, and Starting Your Interior Design Firm

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Today With Rebecca Ward

Mentorship can make all the difference in your design career. Yet many new designers hesitate to take the leap, unsure how to translate their skills into a business or where to find the right support. That’s why Rebecca Ward—CEO and Principal Designer of Rebecca Ward Design in Sacramento—has made mentorship her mission. With over 18 years of experience and an award-winning residential design portfolio, she knows what it takes to step into this industry with confidence and clarity.

In this episode, Rebecca and I talk about what it really means to shift from an employee mindset to an entrepreneurial one, how to reshape your money mindset so you can lead clients at any level, and why cultivating a growth mindset is essential for long-term success. Whether you’re a baby designer just starting out or a seasoned business owner, you’ll find Rebecca’s grounded wisdom and practical guidance inspiring—and packed with lessons you can put into action right away.

Her artistic skill shines in creating contemporary spaces that fit the dynamic lifestyles of families today. She believes in enhancing lives through interior design, making surroundings more  impactful for productivity and mood. Her goal is to create spaces that reflect clients’ needs,  helping them be their best selves in the world.

Beyond her design prowess, Rebecca is dedicated to nurturing emerging talents in interior design. In 2021, she launched the “My Design Mentor” program, empowering individuals to succeed in the field. Her commitment extends to elevating the profession as a whole. Following this, Rebecca expanded her reach by hosting the “Design Curious Podcast,” sharing insights with a broader audience keen on exploring the world of design.  She values a strong design community, actively investing in local peers through monthly gatherings that foster collaboration and growth.

Outside of design, Rebecca finds harmony in music, performing with her attorney husband in their acoustic duo. Cherishing family time, she enjoys moments with her two children and lively labradoodle.

Rebecca Ward’s journey is defined by her dedication to design excellence, mentorship, and unwavering commitment to both her craft and community.

Ah Ha Moments with Rebecca Ward

“Being a CEO requires so many more different skills and a whole new mindset.” – Rebecca Ward

“You cannot save your clients’ money for them. Your role is to design at the level they’ve invited you into, not to hold back because of your own money story.” – LuAnn Nigara

“I have this saying—I’ve said it a thousand times: Do I want to be right, or do I want to get what I want? Before I get on the phone, I know exactly what I want, what I’m willing to do for it, and what I’m willing to give up if I don’t get it.” – LuAnn Nigara

Connect with Rebecca Ward

Podcast

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Facebook 

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YouTube

LinkedIn

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What’s new with LuAnn Nigara

The Power Talk Friday Tour

Watch the Docuseries!

https://www.luannnigara.com/cob

Get The Goodies!

For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free here.

To Get on LuAnn’s Email List, text the word designbiz to 444999!

Purchase LuAnn’s Books Here:

Book 1: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Audiobook: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Book 2: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts

Book 3: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2

Connect with LuAnn Nigara

LuAnn’s Website

LuAnn’s Blog

Power Talk Friday

Like Us: Facebook | Tweet Us: Twitter | Follow Us: Instagram | Listen Here: Podcast

Other Shows Mentioned:

AWDB #1123: Ali Faulkner: What to Do When a Client Says “No”: Lessons from a Lost Design Proposal

AWDB #1021: Ann Cariola: Launching an Interior Design Firm at Age 60—It’s Never Too Late

AWDB #1100: Best Of Show: Erika Ward: Identifying Your Transferrable Skills with Erika Ward

1138: BEST OF SHOW: Beth Bender: Back End Operations for Your Interior Design Firm

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Today with Beth Bender:

Welcome to A Well-Designed Business. Today, I’m talking with Beth Bender, principal and co-founder of The Dove Agency where Beth has developed a team that expertly provides back-office operations for interior design professionals, from strategic planning and consulting to targeted marketing solutions.

With 20 years of design experience, Beth decided she wanted to start something that would help those in the design industry with the back end of their businesses. Supporting both the financial and marketing aspects of the design business, Beth and I discuss The Dove Agency, how it works, benefits of working with the agency, and the fact that if you don’t run your operations smoothly, no matter how talented you are as a designer, it could mean the end of your business.

LuAnn and Beth Bender’s Ah-Ha moments:

“One of your premises is that interior designers should invest in the back end, operations end of the business. You’re talking my language because the whole premise of my podcast is that yes, you need talent to be successful, but your talent isn’t going to be the reason that you are successful. You can get some attraction and some clients, but to create a long lived sustainable profitable business you have to learn how to efficiently run the back end.” – LuAnn Nigara

“We feel that for a design form to be able to have sustained growth you have to have a two-pronged approach. You have to be able to identify both your marketing needs and your financial needs and they have to be in step.” – Beth Bender

“At the end of the day, it really should come down to counting every penny because there are tight margins. Regardless of whether you are charging by the hour, or a set fee you still have to know, How much time did I spend on that project? What was the monetary value of that time?” – Beth Bender

More About Beth Bender:

Principal and Co-Founder Beth Bender specializes in new client and strategic partner acquisitions for The Dove Agency. Beth has developed a team that expertly provides back-office operations for interior design professionals, from strategic planning and consulting to targeted marketing solutions. Additionally, Beth oversees human and organizational development services and she also manages strategic growth strategies at The Dove Agency.

Beth earned her degree in human and organization development from Vanderbilt University, and she brings more than 20 years of design experience to her work, enabling her to advise and assist clients with uniquely informed perspectives as she helps them maximize their time, resources, and profitability.

Combining their impeccable expertise, proficient knowledge, and well-versed viewpoints, Beth and her co-founder, Kenda, together developed services that streamline administrative processes, giving interior design professionals the time to do what they do best—design. These processes are the foundation and hallmark of The Dove Agency today.

Beth works closely with the marketing team to strategically position each designer with the tools necessary for calculated growth, increased influence, and measurable success.

Connect with Beth Bender:

Website

Instagram

Facebook

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What’s new with LuAnn Nigara

luannuniversity.com

https://www.luannnigara.com/cob

Get The Goodies!

For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free here.

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Purchase LuAnn’s Books Here:

Book 1: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Book 2: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts

Pre-Order Book 3: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2

Other Shows Mentioned

Episode 575 Lisa Gilmore: Finance Fridays! From 850k to 2.25 Million in One Year!

WTF Episodes: #653, #645 , #610 , #586 , #551 , #539

Sara Lynn Brennan Episodes: #607 , #524 , #514 , #463

1137: Zain Suthar and Trent Kendrick: Build a More Successful Design Business with the Right Partner

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Today With Zain Suthar and Trent Kendrick

How many times have you thought, “If only I had someone to handle the numbers, the marketing, and the tough client calls, I could just focus on design”?

Today, I’m chatting with a duo who is living that reality—Trent Kendrick and Zain Suthar of Studio Fifth Sunday.

They met in an Uber, both swearing off business partnerships, only to realize they were the perfect “left brain/right brain” match. Trent is the brilliant designer and artist; Zain is the operations and finance pro.

Their story is a masterclass in how a well-matched partnership can change the game—creating accountability, unlocking new revenue streams, and allowing you to do more of what you love.

More About Zain Suthar and Trent Kendrick

Zain Suthar:

Born in India, I was only six months old when I moved to Kinshasa, Congo. When I was 10, my family moved to Atlanta, Georgia. I grew up watching my dad run his own business, which taught me the value of hard work and sparked my entrepreneurial spirit. During college, I envisioned owning a company that provided meaningful solutions for people. Earning a B.S. in Economics from Georgia State University laid the groundwork for my business journey. While design wasn’t my main focus, running a home improvement company gave me hands-on experience in bathroom remodeling. As Trent and I became friends, I learned more about his vision for Studio Fifth Sunday. While I was looking for my next venture, this partnership came at the perfect time. Our friendship allowed me to continue pursuing my passion for construction and design. In 2025, I teamed up with Trent, drawn by his keen design eye and commitment to quality. We both love minimalist and modern design, making our partnership a perfect match. When working with clients, I believe in active listening. Our clients hire us to help achieve their vision. Understanding their vision is key to creating spaces that truly reflect their personalities. Listening and collaborating with you is the heart of our process, ensuring we deliver the value we promise. Outside of work, I enjoy traveling with my wife, snowboarding, and biking around Chicago in the summer. Each city we visit offers fresh design and architectural inspiration. With such unique experiences and being able to experience a variety of aesthetics, I believe that possibilities are endless when it comes to transforming a space. My favorite city that captures my design aesthetic is Santa Barbara, California, as it stands out for its seamless blend of minimalist aesthetics and unique architectural style. Looking ahead, we’re excited to help more clients bring their dream spaces to life and are particularly eager to expand into commercial design projects.

Trent Kendrick:

I grew up on a small Mennonite farm nestled in the rolling hills of southern Iowa. My Mennonite upbringing shaped my strong work ethic and deep appreciation for minimalism and craftsmanship. From an early age, I spent hours in my great-grandfather’s woodworking shop, and by 16, I was working full-time in construction. In 2013, I moved to Chicago to pursue a degree in Interior Design at Harrington College of Design. After gaining experience across various facets of the industry, I founded Studio Fifth Sunday in 2023 to focus on projects that ignite my passion while offering clients a boutique, hands-on experience from concept to completion. In 2025, I partnered with Zain, one of my closest friends, who brings invaluable expertise in business and construction, further strengthening Studio Fifth Sunday’s foundation. My passion lies in minimalism and modern interior design, with a strong emphasis on architecture. I’m inspired by the small, unexpected details that make a space truly unique. Collaborating with artisans and craftspeople is central to my process—I seek out pieces with soul and originality, elements that can’t be replicated in mass production. I also love researching and sourcing materials globally, particularly from Mexico City, whose modern design community and artists continue to inspire me. When I’m not working, you’ll find me traveling or immersed in an art project. With every client, I strive to understand what truly moves, excites, and inspires them. I believe that the success of my designs, business, and client relationships is rooted in collaboration and a shared passion for creating spaces that elevate, define, and express individuality.

 

Ah Ha Moments with Zain Suthar and Trent Kendrick

“He does everything that I don’t like doing. I get to design, he does everything else.” – Trent Kendrick

“My last business was all about pushing… I need to close, close, close. But here… it comes more to a point like, ‘Are you sure you want to work with us?'” – Zain

“He can sell me better than I can sell myself, so let him do it.” – Trent 

“It is so much better if the person who doesn’t get all gaga about the project is the one making the decision whether to take the project or not. If they’re two separate people, that is just so great.” – LuAnn

 

Connect with Zain Suthar and Trent Kendrick

Website

Instagram

 

What’s new with LuAnn Nigara

The Power Talk Friday Tour

Watch the Docuseries!

https://www.luannnigara.com/cob

 

Get The Goodies!

For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free here.

To Get on LuAnn’s Email List, text the word designbiz to 444999!

 

Purchase LuAnn’s Books Here:

Book 1: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Audiobook: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Book 2: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts

Book 3: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2

 

Connect with LuAnn Nigara

LuAnn’s Website

LuAnn’s Blog

Power Talk Friday

Like Us: Facebook | Tweet Us: Twitter | Follow Us: Instagram | Listen Here: Podcast

 

Other Shows Mentioned:

AWDB #130: Kate O’Hara -Director of Marketing & Business Development for Martha O’Hara Interiors

AWDB #977 Katie Ryan Pluer: Strategies for Taking on a Business Partner

1136: David Neagle: Three Powerful Choices That Will Change Everything in Your Interior Design Business

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Today With David Neagle

Today with David Neagle, best-selling author, speaker, and host of The Successful Mind Podcast, we’re talking about the mindset shifts that can change everything in your business. David shares his journey from high school dropout on food stamps to building a multimillion-dollar company—and the simple daily decisions that sparked his transformation. We dive into the beliefs that keep entrepreneurs stuck, how to create a culture of success within your team, and how to spot the blind spots holding you back.

More About David Neagle

David Neagle is a speaker, best-selling author, founder of the multimillion-dollar global consulting company Life Is Now, Inc, and host of the Business Daily News ranked podcast – The Successful Mind.

Being in the personal and professional development industry for more than 20 years, David has helped tens of thousands of students from across the globe gain confidence and find the right mindset needed to increase their revenue, turning their endeavors into seven- and eight-figure ventures.

Ah Ha Moments with David Neagle

“The opportunity was always there. Number two, I couldn’t see it because I had such a bad attitude. So when I changed my attitude, I changed my perception and it allowed me to even conceive about going down that road.” – David

“Our greatest power is our ability to choose. The negativity never goes away completely. It’s that you discipline yourself to choose to focus on the opposite of that every day.” – David

“The world doesn’t care enough to be against you. You’re doing it all by yourself.” – LuAnn

Connect with David Neagle

The Millions Within Book

David Neagle

The Successful Mind Podcast

Instagram

Instagram

Facebook

YouTube

LinkedIn

LinkedIn

What’s new with LuAnn Nigara

The Power Talk Friday Tour

Watch the Docuseries!

https://www.luannnigara.com/cob

Get The Goodies!

For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free here.

To Get on LuAnn’s Email List, text the word designbiz to 444999!

Purchase LuAnn’s Books Here:

Book 1: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Audiobook: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Book 2: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts

Book 3: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2

Connect with LuAnn Nigara

LuAnn’s Website

LuAnn’s Blog

Power Talk Friday

Like Us: Facebook | Tweet Us: Twitter | Follow Us: Instagram | Listen Here: Podcast

Other Resources Mentioned:

Check out David Neagle’s assessment quiz. A helpful tool to help you get started on a new path.
Take The Quiz

Other Shows Mentioned:

AWDB #913: Power Talk Friday: Terri Taylor: The Importance of Money Mindset in Charging Your Worth

AWDB #957: Power Talk Friday: Audrey Faust: Building Wealth Through a Positive Money Mindset

1135: Hannah Goldberg: How to Attract Dream Clients Before You Have an Interior Design Portfolio

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Today With Hannah Goldberg

Today on A Well Designed Business, Hannah Goldberg of Hannah Charlotte Interiors shares how she built what she calls a “no-niche niche,” working across multiple design styles while maintaining crystal-clear boundaries around her ideal client and design ethos.

Hannah breaks down how to navigate the “yes era” of early business, using vignettes and mood boards to communicate your aesthetic before you have perfect portfolio shots, and why investing in professional branding from day one made all the difference.

From building an email list while bartending to surviving a chandelier crisis at The Mansion in May show house, Hannah’s journey demonstrates how clarity on your design ethos becomes the foundation for sustainable growth, even when you’re stretching across different styles and projects.

If you’re wondering how to attract your dream clients before you have the perfect portfolio, this conversation offers a roadmap for building with intention from the start.

More About Hannah Goldberg

Hannah Goldberg is the founder and principal of Hannah Charlotte Interiors, specializing in bespoke commercial and residential design projects in DC and beyond. With over a decade of industry experience blending her passion for design with her engineering and interior architecture background, Hannah ensures each space is functional and beautiful, with a focus on collaboration and client vision. Each of her projects is tailored to diverse needs and aesthetics, drawing inspiration from nature, art, food, and travel.

Ah Ha Moments with Hannah Goldberg

“I made the conscious decision that my projects are not going to look the same—and that’s okay for what I want in my business.”- Hannah Charlotte

Connect with Hannah Goldberg

Website

Instagram

Pinterest

What’s new with LuAnn Nigara

The Power Talk Friday Tour

Watch the Docuseries!

https://www.luannnigara.com/cob

Get The Goodies!

For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free here.

To Get on LuAnn’s Email List, text the word designbiz to 444999!

Purchase LuAnn’s Books Here:

Book 1: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

AudiobookThe Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Book 2: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts

Book 3: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2

Connect with LuAnn Nigara

LuAnn’s Website

LuAnn’s Blog

Power Talk Friday

Like Us: Facebook | Tweet Us: Twitter | Follow Us: Instagram | Listen Here: Podcast

Other Resources Mentioned:

This podcast supports the Savvy Giving Design Coalition. Learn more about it here!

AWDB #717 Susan Wintersteen: Interior design firm standards in a nonprofit passion project

AWDB #164: Susan Wintersteen- Savvy Giving by Design

Other Shows Mentioned:

#174: Power Talk Friday- Fred Berns- Own Your “Only” Word & Tips to Discover Yours

#820: Alex Alonso: Always Say Yes to a Client, Except When You Should Say No

#917: Power Talk Friday: Fred Berns: The Five Things All Successful People Do

1134: BEST OF SHOW: Jean Stoffer: Work in Harmony Through Every Season of Life

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Today With Jean Stoffer:

Welcome to A Well-Designed Business! Today we are joined by the one and only Jean Stoffer. Jean is an award-winning independent designer, star of The Established Home on the Magnolia Network, and author of the newly released book Establishing Home. In our conversation, Jean offers a glimpse into her journey, showing us the joys of intertwining work and family, the benefits of an unhurried attitude, and the blessings each season of life has to offer.


Pick it Apart:

[6:01] Jean discusses “being in the trenches” as she built her business from the ground up, learning cabinetry design, kitchen design, and troubleshooting at her own pace.

[10:10] LuAnn and Jean agree that cultural messages often pressure young designers to rush toward success, but both believe that isn’t always the right path. Jean discusses embracing the season you are in.

[16:50] Jean walks through the current family dynamic and everyone’s role in the Stoffer Home business.

[27:30] LuAnn and Jean talk about the importance of processes as you grow your business.

[48:00] Jean discusses working with the Magnolia Network and putting her work on television.


LuAnn Nigara and Jean Stoffer’s Ah-Ha Moments

“Our value system and reputation are just so bedrock for me and our family.” – Jean Stoffer.

“I really believe there are seasons for things, and it’s great to embrace those and accept them.” – Jean Stoffer.

“I think as a society, we are putting pressure on moms to think that you can have it all. And you actually can, but not all in the same season is my belief.” – LuAnn Nigara.

“It’s very important that the quality and all of the things connected with [your brand] remain as close as to your original vision and way of doing it.” – LuAnn Nigara.

More about Jean Stoffer

Jean Stoffer is an award-winning Grand Rapids-based independent interior designer specializing in kitchen and bath designs. Each of her designs is custom suited for her clients’ lives and how they hope to use their home. Jean is also the founder of Stoffer Home, a retail store featuring beautiful and functional items for the home, and Stoffer Home Cabinetry, the source for Jean’s own line of quality, British-inspired flush inset cabinets. In December 2021, the Magnolia Network began airing The Established Home, a TV series featuring Jean and her design work.

Connect with Jean Stoffer

Website

Stoffer Home

Instagram

Pinterest

What’s New with LuAnn Nigara

luannuniversity.com

https://www.luannnigara.com/cob

Get the Goodies

For checklists, resources, and extra goodies from A Well-Designed Business sign up for free here.

To Get on LuAnn’s Email List, text the word designbiz to 444999!

Purchase LuAnn’s Books Here

Book 1: The Making of A Well – Designed Business: Turn Inspiration into Action

Book 2: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts

Pre-Order Book 3: A Well-Designed Business – The Power Talk Friday Experts Volume 2

Connect with LuAnn Nigara

LuAnn’s Website

LuAnn’s Blog

Power Talk Friday

Like Us: Facebook | Tweet Us: Twitter | Follow Us: Instagram | Listen Here: Podcast

Other Shows Mentioned

#563: Power Talk Friday: Mike Van Tassell: Expressing Your Brand Through Photography

1133: Overheard: 3 Experts, One Mission: Build a Website That Converts with Ebony Looney, Deb Mitchell, and Nicole Heymer

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Today With Ebony Looney, Deb Mitchell, and Nicole Heymer

We all know that a website is important. It’s your calling card, your portfolio, the place where clients go to make sure you’re a legitimate designer who does what you say you do. 

But so many designers are still going wrong with their websites. And the problem with doing it yourself is that there are so many pieces involved, layout, the design, the SEO, the copywriting, and when your website isn’t doing what it needs to do, it’s hard to even know where to start fixing the problem. 

More About Ebony Looney, Deb Mitchell, and Nicole Heymer

Ebony Looney: Ebony is a Web Designer and Creative Director with 22+ years of experience making the web beautiful for B2B service providers. She has worked with agency owners, private sector and educational institutions such as Carbra Construction & Design, Benedict College & South Carolina Commission for Minority Affairs. With a background in web design, development, fashion design and online marketing she believes that beautiful design is good business. She is happy to cover any website marketing related topic you think your audience would be most interested in.

Deb Mitchell: Deb Mitchell’s career as a professional writer began when she responded to an ad in a local Charlotte, NC magazine seeking volunteers for a readers’ panel. On a tour of the magazine’s offices with the other selected panelists, the idea for an article came to her and when she mentioned it to the editors, they hired her on the spot as a writer. Nearly ten years and hundreds of articles later, Deb decided to blend her design feature writing experience with her pre-writing career experience in high-end retail sales to help interior designers move their businesses forward with strategic copywriting and content marketing services.

Today, Deb’s client list is ever growing with designers at nearly every stage of business. Most recently, she’s joined forces with two experts, a branding designer and a website developer, to offer designers an all-in-one option for fully custom designed and copywritten WordPress websites.

Deb has by-lined articles in publications such as Casual Living, Design Texas, Lake Norman Magazine, and Today’s Charlotte Woman, and on The Renegade Writer blog. Her ghostwriting has appeared in dozens of top shelter publications and design blogs.

Nicole Heymer: Owner and Creative Director, Glory & Brand Nicole Heymer is the founder of Glory & Brand, a boutique creative agency specializing in branding, websites, marketing automation, and strategy. Since 2011, Nicole has worked with a wide variety of clients at every stage in their development, from nationally known interior design firms to local custom home builders. Nicole’s clear, practical take on branding has been featured by a range of design industry resources—from the Wingnut Social podcast to the Design Influencers Conference to the . You’ll find her methods in print, on industry webinars, and as the framework for branding workshops.

Connect with Ebony Looney, Deb Mitchell, and Nicole Heymer 

Nicole Heymer

Deb Mitchell

Ebony Looney

Other Resources Mentioned:

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Other Shows Mentioned:

AWDB #717 Susan Wintersteen: Interior design firm standards in a nonprofit passion project

AWDB #164: Susan Wintersteen- Savvy Giving by Design

AWDB #317: Nicole Heymer: 6 Keys to Planning A Website That Makes Things Happen

AWDB #466: Power Talk Friday: Nicole Heymer: You’ve Defined Your Brand…Now What?

AWDB #574: Power Talk Friday: Deb Mitchell: Attract the Right Clients With Stand-Out Copy

AWDB #819: Power Talk Friday: Ebony Looney: Attract Clients Through Your Interior Design Business Website

AWDB #1087: Best of Show: Nicole Heymer: 6 Keys to Planning A Website That Makes Things Happen

1132: Jessica Nelson, Stephanie Lindsey: Using AI to Streamline Your Interior Design Business

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Today with Jessica Nelson and Stephanie Lindsey

Today on A Well Designed Business, Nicole Heymer returns to discuss the massive shift happening in online search that’s changing how potential clients find interior designers. We’re living through a pivotal moment where traditional Google searches are being replaced by AI-powered recommendations from ChatGPT, Google’s AI mode, and other large language models. Nicole explains why your website information is now being summarized and served directly to searchers, what this means for how you need to structure your content, and the specific steps you can take to ensure AI systems recommend you. From testing your own search results to prioritizing Google reviews in new ways, this conversation covers the practical strategies designers need to implement right now to stay visible in an AI-driven search landscape. Whether you’re getting most of your business from referrals or you’re heavily invested in SEO, this shift affects everyone, and the designers who adapt early will have a significant competitive advantage.

LuAnn Nigara, Jessica Nelson and Stephanie Lindsey’s Ah-Ha Moments

“For us, ChatGPT and custom GPTs are really where it started. We’ve built maybe 50 or 60 of them, from personality analyzers to budget calculators to city code checkers, and we use them every day. It helps us understand clients, understand our team, and communicate better. That’s been transformational for our firm.” – Stephanie

More About Jessica Nelson and Stephanie Lindsey

Jessica Nelson and Stephanie Lindsey are the designers and co-founders behind AI for Interiors, a platform that helps interior designers use AI tools in ways that actually make their jobs—and their lives—easier.  As the founders of Etch Design Group, they’ve experienced firsthand how the right AI tools can give back valuable time and simplify the day-to-day, all without losing the personal touch that makes design so powerful.

Jessica blends a background in both IT and design, making her the go-to for AI tools and tech strategy.

Stephanie keeps it all grounded in the realities of running a busy, high-touch design studio. Together, they teach practical, real-world ways to use AI—and they’re passionate about helping designers stay in control of their process while working smarter, not harder.

Connect with AI for Interiors

Website – AI For Interiors

Podcast – Apple Podcast

Podcast – Spotify

YouTube

LinkedIn – Stephanie

LinkedIn – Jessica

Instagram

Website – Etch Design Group

100 Lunches Podcast – Apple Podcast

100 Lunches Podcast – Spotify

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Other Shows Mentioned:

AWDB #892: Sharon L. Sherman: Decoding Personality Types for Successful Client Outcomes

AWDB #1110: NEW SHOW: Jenna Gaidusek: Mastering AI Tools for a Streamlined Design Business

AWDB #950 Overheard: Insights on Hiring Exceptional People

AWDB #635 Beth Diana Smith: Refining Process in Your Interior Design Business

AWDB #722 How to Incorporate 3D Renderings into Your Interior Design Business

AWDB #1099 Shea McGee: From Dream to Empire: How Shea Built Studio McGee 3.0

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1131: Thom Filicia: The Sentence That Built a Multi-Faceted Design Brand

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Today with Thom Filicia

Today, I’m joined by one of the most recognizable names in design, Thom Filicia. From his early days at Parrish-Hadley to his breakout role on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, to building a thriving design firm, product collections, a retail brand, and countless collaborations, Thom has continually expanded what it means to be a designer.

In this conversation, Thom shares why knowing who you are as a designer is the foundation for everything else, how staying curious and saying yes to new opportunities has shaped his career, and why great design is more than creating a beautiful room — it’s about creating spaces people truly want to live in.

If you’ve ever wondered how to grow beyond projects into partnerships, products, and a lasting brand while staying authentic to your design voice, you won’t want to miss this episode.

LuAnn Nigara and Thom Filicia ’s Ah-Ha Moments

“It’s not just about creating a beautiful space, because creating a beautiful space is sort of the low-hanging fruit. We can all make something look beautiful, but making it make sense for the people that live there… that’s great design. Because at the end of the day, design is for people.” – Thom

“Don’t not like something before you even understand what it is. Know you first, stay open second, and try to have some facts.” – Thom

“Sometimes you just have a minute to say what you do. You don’t have ten.” – LuAnn

“Take what you do seriously, but for the love of God, do not take yourself seriously… Take what you do seriously and be really passionate and good at what you do, no matter what it is.” – Thom

Connect with Thom Filicia

Website

Instagram

Facebook

Pinterest

Other Shows Mentioned:

AWDB #67: Alan Tanksley- Lessons and Observations from a 30+ Year Career in Interior Design

AWDB #407: Century Furniture and Carrier & Company Launch New Line at High Point Market April 2019